1967 dart

That can happen with aftermarket stuff, and it will be far more difficult to diagnose with aftermarket stuff.
 
Not really, you just won't be able to use factory wiring diagrams.

When I get around to the twin turbo, efi'd 440 in the Charger I'm going with headlight to tail light aftermarket wiring harness. Since it is going to be so far away from stock it's just going to be easier with an all new, custom fit wiring harness. That way I can use the nice weather tight connections, I do plan to drive it as often as possible! :)
 
ill never understand why ppl buy a "kit" tho....when head, tail, turn, stop, mark, reverse is bloody simplistic
 
True, but it's nice to have the neat, organized fuse panel and the labeled wires (if indeed they are). The only real PITA is the dash wiring, which is still pretty simplistic on that era car. In my case, since I'm going a similar route to 71ChargerR/T, I will have to have a custom engine harness just because of my ECM. However, the rest of the wiring I'll just go with stock. The only problem I've ever had with stock wiring was the headlamp switch connector on the Black Bitch. Due to a problem in the motor for the hideaways, the connector melted because the headlamp motor never stopped "twitching" as the relay kicked in and out (power doors up, then down). It was pretty funny to watch, actually, since the car looked like it had a nervous tic... fluttering eyelids. Not so funny was when the terminal would pop out of the connector on the switch and the lights went out. Rather exciting at 75MPH on ancient, broken backroads in pitch darkness. I fixed the motor on the kitchen table and got a good switch connector out of a different Charger. I didn't change any wiring, though.
 
since ive wired and rewired a few....i do NOT like the stock dash wireing..there far more there than needs to be....tho the mopars got the tail harness right..unlike alot of other companys adding extra wires to what should only be 5 wires to the tail 6 to the nose..where they got it wrong was the nose wrapping it into things it had no buisness being in or neer.....

.i "think" i did the darts cuda dash wiring connection...check the pinboard you use..cause i remember sending along one of my speciel units..which i use certain types of nailstrimmed and stuffed from the backside of the pins and then soilder it up for "unbreakable" pins as the dodge dash pin setup has always been the weak link
 
Dr.Jass said:
True, but it's nice to have the neat, organized fuse panel and the labeled wires (if indeed they are). The only real PITA is the dash wiring, which is still pretty simplistic on that era car. In my case, since I'm going a similar route to 71ChargerR/T, I will have to have a custom engine harness just because of my ECM. However, the rest of the wiring I'll just go with stock. The only problem I've ever had with stock wiring was the headlamp switch connector on the Black Bitch. Due to a problem in the motor for the hideaways, the connector melted because the headlamp motor never stopped "twitching" as the relay kicked in and out (power doors up, then down). It was pretty funny to watch, actually, since the car looked like it had a nervous tic... fluttering eyelids. Not so funny was when the terminal would pop out of the connector on the switch and the lights went out. Rather exciting at 75MPH on ancient, broken backroads in pitch darkness. I fixed the motor on the kitchen table and got a good switch connector out of a different Charger. I didn't change any wiring, though.
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When I had my 70 Sport Fury, with hide-away-headlights, it used to do something very similar. If I was driving at night, and I had the high beams on for too long, the circuit would get very hot...and then it would start tripping the headlight door relay, or something along those lines, in the system. SO then my headlight doors would start to slam closed and open rapidly.....scarred the hell out of me the first time it happened. After that I just never used the high beams.
 
My relay was so active, it buzzed like a beehive sometimes. I took it out, uncrimped it, and found nothing wrong with it (I was sure that was the issue--it was annoying as hell). Next I took out the headlamp-door motor. I took off the plastic side cover for the gear housing and found the real problem--there are two sets of "stop" points inside it, run by a cam on the actuator gear. They actually look like ignition points. I stole one of my Mom's fingernail emery boards and filed both sets of points so they were once again making good contact. It solved the problem completely. I bought that car from my friend Kevin, and when I figured out the issue, his response was something to the effect of, "Man, I tried to track that down for a long time. That noise drove me crazy."

Back to our regularly-scheduled silliness. :D
 
Damn, Glad I took the time to read all 12 pages of this build. That lil Dart has come a long ways. I see it sitting in the garage there every time I pull in to read the gas meter every month, but had NO IDEA how much work has gone into the car. I plan to get the mini-tub done on my Dart too but don't know anywhere local that could do it.

Can't wait to see this car finished, its going to be a sweet ride !
 
Decided I was ready to thrash on Dartie this weekend. First job was making room in the shop .... took an afternoon. The next day i decide its time to start the progress. Get everything lined up and ready to go and WHAM!!!! ... I have the wrong flywheel bolts.... now to wait for them... and need the right offset alignment dowels of .007
 
Ok so i have the 340 slid into its home ... installed the six pack intake manifold and started to work on the wiring. The kit so far is very straight forward and a couple of simple modifications. I could fire the engine up.




I started to wire the dash when i got to the second item. The fuel gauge which brought me to a whole new problem. I dug out the fuel tank and went to check it over very carefully when i found a rust hole in the tank :-( So i made a new decision to build a fuel cell from 16 gauge stainless.
i was worried about cutting out the floor i fixed up and tossed the idea around for a few weeks to make my decision.

Too late now to change my mind. Any body want a spare tire well?



So i built a wooden box to get a better visual of the task at hand



Started to bend up some sheet metal to create this patch


How does she look ?


Welding should commence tomorrow afternoon
 
i would weld in an angled up sweep in the back..mostly cosmetic so it doesnt look like you have a race cell stuffed under there
 
I have run miles of wire on this car now. I have come up to a few problems.
The hazard light switch on the barracuda dash. Which one is the feed on th eback of the switch? i have 4 terminals to choose from.

What paint should i use behind the grill? flat black?

Planning to install the lights this weekend and hopefully start on windows.

Also the variable speed wiper switch and motor itself. Which wire is which on the back of the switch?

I found the two speed switch diagram but have not found the variable speed diagram
 
I had headlights turned on last night and the dimmer switch worked. Parking lights are working....
Some reason the tail lights stay on all the time :hmmm:
but brake lights work

Turn signals do not work. So looks like i will have to do some digging in the steering column :hmmm: I did not see a ground wire coming down to the plug. So maybe there is a wire buggered up :wtf: but could also be the emergency flasher causing the issue:doh:
May call Ron francis tech support on monday for the flasher switch

We will see what i get up to today. Planning to get the fuel cell sorted out and maybe taken to someone to tig weld up:hmmm:
 
so i installed the new turn signal switch and its not as floppy now. However the wires are different colors so now i have to sort those colors out :doh:

Had the issue of the tail lights staying on as soon as i put the positive wire to the battery. So i called Ron Francis and started looking at all the wires again:doh:Blew a couple of 10 amp fuses :doh:last night when testing.

Decided since i was not winning at the electrical issue i would install all the clutch linkage. Then the one seal ripped on the torque shaft and now i need a new one :doh:

Now i was all frustrated so i went to install the rest of the grill since it should be fairly simple. It wanted to fight as well, but i accomplished that.

I also started to install the quarter windows and door windows this week. Just need to finish those up.
 
The Mopar Purists Association thanks you for blacking out the core support. :D

Always nice to see progress! :dance:
 
Looks good! I like the blackout treatment, too many cars show up without that done :doh:



heads out to rattle car the area behind the grille on truck...
 
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I agree with Doc...one of the major things that pi$$ me of at shows. Yeah you have a nice fresh painted car...but seeing body color through the grille just detracts from the cars appearance.

Coming along....keep up the relentless work.
 
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