Wailing & gnashing of teeth...

Just a few of the upgrade parts I've been collecting for the car in the last 15 months or so.

Since the car is manual steering, on which I plan to upgrade from 26:1 to 20:1, it's going to be a bit of effort to turn at lower speeds, so the Tuff wheel will come out and be replaced with a Rim Blow wheel I picked up inexpensively. I've started to repair it myself and will post results when I've finished it (or completely failed and sent it out to be done by a professional). I already have a replacement switch and repro '70 "DODGE" horn button for it.

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Next up is the Rallye cluster that 71ChargerR/T found for me at a "reasonable" price (because there's no such thing as actually reasonable where E-body Rallye clusters are concerned). These are the before-and-after shots; AutoInstruments refinished the gauges. I converted the tach to an upgraded control circuit and the clock to quartz myself. The speedometer and gauges worked fine as-is and were not touched mechanically. A bit of advice for anyone considering an E-body: if you want a Rallye dash, buy a car with one already in it. The expense involved with this setup, from boneyard to brilliance, is nothing short of staggering. If I had anyone to whom I had to answer other than a dog, it would've never happened. It's retarded, but I simply had to have what my '73 had. That's just how it is with these things sometimes.

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Of course, there's the shiny new bumpers. These are actually '71 bumpers, which I ordered because they don't have the holes for the "buck tooth" bumper guards, nor do they have jack slots. I wanted the cleaner look and never intend to use a bumper jack on this car; I'll keep a trolley jack in the trunk. These are Goodmark's "premium" rechromed originals, which I ordered from a place called getallparts.com. It's not a restoration place, it's just a parts site, but their prices were the best I found and the shipping was about half of Rock Auto. They were $338 to my door, packed and protected to withstand even the angriest UPS employee. That was more than $70 under Rock at the time. These bumpers are freakin' gorgeous in person.

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Finally, we have the coup de grace. Something I'd always wanted on the old car, and wanted if I ever got another, and more importantly, if I could find a set. Minilite wheels. These are aluminum 17" repros; the originals were 15" magnesium and currently fetch about $1,500-$2,500 per wheel--if you can even find them. I found out that Minilite was still in business, after multiple ownership and staff changes, and currently making aluminum repros. However, after doing a lot of research I found their quality is seriously lacking: they paint the wheels and do so badly, and the castings often have large voids where defects existed in the sand-casting molds. I kept rooting around the vintage SCCA sites and finally found someone (Vintage Wheel Works) offering a quality reproduction, far better than the current Minilite offerings and possibly even the originals, but in the more-economical aluminum (I also found repro magnesiums for $1,700 per wheel :dgt: ). Since good-quality street rubber doesn't exist in 15" (or 16") sizes anymore, I was forced to go to the 17" diameter. The wheels are made to spec, and to order. I spent a few extra bucks per wheel to get what I thought would be a good look, and am now the proud owner of the only brushed-rim Minilites in existence. The guys at VWW thought I was insane when I ordered the brushed finish, but after the first wheel was done they were convinced I'm a genius (their words, not mine). The wheels are raw aluminum, no clearcoat or finish of any kind. Clearcoat would ruin the look, and I was advised simply to keep them clean with soap and water. No protectant, no paint, or the gorgeous look will be destroyed. These really need to be seen in person to be fully appreciated.
All four wheels are 17x8 with 4" backspacing, and though it doesn't look like it, yes--they do clear with the P255/50WR-17 rubber on them at each corner. I think this was the absolute best decision I've yet made about the car.

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To me, those wheels just look, well, right on this body style. I can't think of anything I'd rather have on it... and I managed to run an oversized wheel without having a stupid rubber-band-looking sidewall. :dance:
 
Wow that roof and drip rail work looked pretty intense! Well done! :2thumbs:

That looks like a decent starting point for a rim blow. My buddy has one in his 70 Chally...love the look. He had his redone professionally probably 20 years ago now, think he paid about $500 at the time....looks amazing! He's been offer $2500 at a car show for it!

Gauges look great. I'm not a E-body follower so I have no idea what these clusters are worth...but can imagine.

I like the rims, definitely a period look to them.
 
Wow that roof and drip rail work looked pretty intense! Well done! :2thumbs:

Gauges look great. I'm not a E-body follower so I have no idea what these clusters are worth...but can imagine.
Thank you! It's been a learning experience, and working alone hasn't been a picnic. When I say I'm doing this myself, I really am. It's literally a one-man show. I've had absolutely no physical assistance with any of this, including lifting and moving the roof panel, making everything fit, etc. Thank God I've had restoman's online guidance via PM! :dance:

If you're not lucky and somewhat-connected, and don't spend a lot of time shopping/waiting for sales/staring at eBay it's not hard to invest well over $3,000 into a complete E-body Rallye dash. It's much more than a bezel and a gauges; the only thing that transfers from the standard cluster is the lower dash trim, dash frame itself, and the dash pad. Even the heater controls are different (the AC bezel alone is over $220 for a repro; originals are more). Is it worth it? Absolutely not in the grand scheme of things. I don't have that much into mine, but it's still a lot of coin. I look at it this way: This is it. This is my dream car. If it would've cost me that much, I'd still be forking out money to get the bits together. Honestly, I might need to replace my bezel carrier so I still might not even be done. That piece, a glorified hunk of black plastic, is over $250. It's worth it to me. After 25 years of wanting, wishing, and waiting, I'm doing it exactly as I want it.
 
when your trying to build YOUR car YOUR way..thee is a point when you cant think about cost..cause you have to have it your way....that in itself is part of why my lloyd got shelved..it was being pushed, rushed, and nothing was "falling into the dream" as it shoudla been.....its a whole lot easier when your dealing with all production parts

and resto is an invaluable resource to have for bending his ear
 
.....its a whole lot easier when your dealing with all production parts

I've always loved the challenge & satisfaction that comes from creating or modifying to make something work, but I have to be able to do it on my terms & my time.
 
Well, I'm pretty sure I'll put my custom-fabrication skills to the test with the induction system on the Imperial. Who knows? Perhaps something similar will work its way onto this car. :doh:
 
I've always loved the challenge & satisfaction that comes from creating or modifying to make something work, but I have to be able to do it on my terms & my time.

EXACTLY..but..things are still easier with production parts

i do love to make the weird stuff fit together tho
 
EXACTLY..but..things are still easier with production parts

Definitely the worst type of project is a full-on restoration, when a particular part number is more important than the overall condition of that part. :(

I'll never do another. :dgt:
 
Definitely the worst type of project is a full-on restoration, when a particular part number is more important than the overall condition of that part. :(

I'll never do another. :dgt:

Same here....that was one of the reasons I had very little hesitation to sell my coronet 'vert. It was fun at the time, but not something I would ever embark upon again. I prefer function over numbers and correct coatings and finish.
 
when your trying to build YOUR car YOUR way..thee is a point when you cant think about cost..cause you have to have it your way...
^^ This is exactly my sentiment. On any other car, I wouldn't have expended either the cash or the effort. Thankfully, 71ChargerRT got me into a cluster, uh, "inexpensively" and I lucked out here and there, so I'm nowhere near what it would cost to assemble one via the eBay/swap meet method. But it's still the single largest expense on the car to date. :doh:
 
The last test fit involved getting everything in place and determining where I would be clamping the roof while the patch-panel adhesive set and dried. I dropped the roof into place, and it wouldn't fit into the driprails. How I'd missed this previously, I'm not really sure, but the LH edge of the panel had a stamping defect. I had to trim the edge back for a length of about 16", walking back and forth to the other side to make sure I wasn't overdoing it (which I did, but not fatally so, about 2/3 of the way back). Once that repair was handled, the fit was just tight enough that it "snapped" into place on the driprails above the centers of the door openings without bowing the roof, using a 6" putty knife and a mild blow from the butt of my hand. In this picture, you can see the raw metal edge where I had to trim the roof back:

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At the back, the roof lined up pretty well in the window frame, so I got that fit and centered as good as the stamping would allow. Up front, the place it wanted to rest was a little off from where it needed to sit. This was a "production tolerance" issue I'd mentally noted when removing the old panel. This type of fitment issue is where others curse the repro panel as "junk" but in all honesty, these cars weren't precision assemblies in the first place. The roof panel wasn't perfect, either--we'll get to that--but it was very good overall. You have to know going in that it's not going to just fall into place. It's time-consuming work, hence the cost involved when someone does it for you. Once I had everything adjusted to where I wanted it, I clamped the roof into place dry, with no welds or adhesive yet. This way, I would know exactly how it was going to sit.

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With the roof finally into an "as good as it's gonna get" position, I used a red paint marker to make reference/alignment marks between the new panel and the car. This was an invaluable step, because even with the adhesive advertised as "longer working time" you really don't want to be fucking around trying to adjust it much once it's glued. You only get one shot at this, and if you blow it you're essentially starting over... so I was determined to not blow it. :D Yes, the red line is where the roof edge is supposed to meet the quarter panel. That's a "perspective" mark that had to be seen from the correct angle, but it's a good indication of adjustments yet to be made, as is the funky window-frame fit. Once again, this is a later shot but illustrates what I mean.

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It was getting to be late in the evening, so I removed all the clamps and lifted the roof off the car one last time. The roof sling clamps were off, and since my "strap sling" wasn't centered over the car anyhow it would've been a hindrance during final assembly. This time, rather than use the sling, I instead set short lengths of 2"x4" atop the structure, and let the roof sit on those. Considering both the hour and my total paranoia about final gluing of the roof, I called it a night with the roof only inches from its destination.

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Sleep well, gorgeous. :D

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you spent a FORTUNE on my fav c clamps

and i totaly understand the paranoia ...its even worse when your cutting a panel that you basicly cant replace if your life depended on it....you get one chance..screw it up and you junk the whole project
 
you spent a FORTUNE on my fav c clamps
I did no such thing! I bought cheap Asian knockoffs from Hardware Factory Store on Amazon and paid $5.70 per pair. They work great!

Now, the long-reach ones? Those are a different story. Just save yourself the headache and get Irwin/Vise Grip. The "extensions" are made of soft metal, and with any kind of pressure and uneven load, they'll flip sideways when the jaws deform and not hold. I'm going to weld pieces of steel rod into the ones I bought (first bad Tekton tool I've gotten) to hold them straight while clamping... but for $7 more a pair, I could've gotten Irwin. :doh:
 
The Irwin ones are no longer any better. They moved manufacturing to China several years ago.

I keep my old ViceGrips nearby and lend them to no-one....
 
The Irwin ones are no longer any better. They moved manufacturing to China several years ago.

I keep my old ViceGrips nearby and lend them to no-one....
That's a true story. New Irwin Vise Grips side by side with original Vise Grips... the difference is huge!
I didn't think it was possible for someone to screw up something so tough as a Vise Grip, but Irwin did it in Spades!

I've got maybe 30 pair of plier-style VGs and another 40 in C Clamps and welding clamps... you can never have too many. Some are very old and still get the job done better than the new garbage.

No one gets to borrow them.

I scour yard sales and auctions, looking for more to buy.
 
i got 12 of the irwin at lowes off the clearance rack last year for 10$ each....no clue why they were clearanced but i grabbed ALL of them...but i swear you can never have enuf of them when you need em..and 6$ each..ima have to grab more

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AHAH!..that must have been why they clearanced them then...cause they are a dead ringer for my ancient vice grip ones that are scabbed with welding slags an such....i too hunt the yard sales for em..and a couple of storage unit resale shops
 
Well, they wouldn't have clearanced them because they were the old Made in U.S.A. ones, and the new ones are still dead ringers for the old ones. They're made off the same tooling, it just got moved overseas. Unless they sat at Lowe's for well over 10 years (which they didn't--those places don't sit on anything that long), they're Chinese.

I'll bet they're still miles ahead of the Tekton ones I have. But the short-jaw ones I bought work great.
 
god knows i put the ones i got thru hell when i widened up a trailer..suspended from a forklift on its side.......if they are cheep china knockoffs they have my full support
 

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