The abuse continues...

Why anyone would go through the time, labor and expense to convert from column to floor and leave it an auto is beyond me. All the mostly stock cars I've seen over the years with an aftermarket auto shifter almost makes one want to puke. To me they are on the same level as whale-tail spoilers and ground effects :dgt:...............posers. :(
The Challenger is worth the added expense, and is up for serious consideration. Nova not so much.
 
I'd rather have this,
http://www.tciauto.com/tc/outlawtm-blackout-shifter-with-cover-3-speedhtml/

but present funds allow a used B&M Z Gate, meh. I'm no Ronnie Sox, so I'm okay with this in this car. My intended purpose for this car hasn't changed, it's going to spend a good portion of its time on the track. Hell, I have 5 within an hour and a half of my house, including Ennis and Northstar Dragway not to mention nice concrete streets. Once it's dialed in pretty good with my JY 360 I'll start adding stuff to push it to its limit.


We'll see if I can really drive over the crank...
 
I thought the ratchet shift set-up on my 73 RR with the T-style console shifter was actually pretty decent. The noise, quality and ability to store anything was poor, but the mechanism itself was decent enough.
That's the Slap Stik gate to which I was referring that needs to be transplanted into the '66-'70 junk. It's a positive-stop shifter--it's not a ratchet shifter. Ratchet shifters, such as B&M's QuickSilver and MegaShifter, pop back to the same position every time you shift. Pull it back with the lockout disengaged (on the QuickSilver you lift on the knob, if memory serves, and on the MegaShifter you lift the "brass knuckles") and it moves the transmission and the needle back to "1". When you shift, the lever moves forward taking the transmission and indicator needle with it, then it pops back to exactly where it was. It ratchets. The factory Slap Stik does not do that. It moves forward a position and locks there until you release forward pressure, then will move forward only, one gear only... and stays in that gear.

I fucking detest ratchet shifters. I don't like shit not staying where I put it, and I hate even worse having to look down at the unlit, junky-looking shitbird indicator to know what gear I'm in when stopped. My buddy had a QuickSilver in his '69 'Cuda and it felt junky despite being brand new. The only aftermarket auto shifter I've driven that I liked was the Hurst Quarter Stick I had in my Cordoba, and even that was a pain in the ass because you needed to squeeze and release the lockout lever repeatedly to move it all the way through the gate, and I think you had to hold it for 1-2 and release it for 2-3. Still, it stayed moved when you moved it, and the stops were like a brick wall. Hurst is now owned by B&M, so no doubt you're just getting a Pro Stick with Hurst stamped on it now (the current one doesn't look like my 1993 unit). Operation is the same, but the quality is lower; when I had mine a friend had a Pro Stick that was much flimsier. Par for the course for B&M.

I think the Z-Gate is a non-ratchet, positive-stop shifter a la Slap Stik. I know it was always B&M's least-expensive NHRA-approved shifter, and I considered one at one point (for what, I can't remember) but the chintzy feel of that more-expensive QuickSilver kept me away.

Other than the crappy feel of the A- and B-body (through '70) console shifters, the button is in the worst possible location. Because of it, to push the button you have to position and move your hand like you're artificially inseminating livestock. It's fucking awkward. You can't properly grasp it like a floor shifter should be. That was also a problem with the '70 "hideous walnut knob" E-body Slap Stik. That knob was on everything in '70, and resurfaced on late-production E-bodies and some '74 B-bodies when Chrysler was throwing all the leftovers at 'em. "Hey, we've still got a bunch of those ghastly, semi-useless '70 Challenger shifters lying around... we should really use those up." :doh:
 
that slap shift in the 74 chally i actualy liked a lil, but it did make a racket, and your dead right about the awkwardness as for ratchet shift...i love my ole quicksilver...which was bought new in 92, mind you my fish is gutted to the bone so it doesnt exactly look out of place especialy next to the ABS sandrail type buckets on reveresed stock abody tracks for more leg room...mind you its also a full manual valve body so..if you pretty well know what gear your in at all times anyway without needing to look down...mines factory lit too yes on the a-bodys if you want a couple more inches out of the seats..take the passenger tracks and move them to the driverside BACKWARDS, swap the driver to the passenger...you get a good couple inches.....now mind you there is one down side, pull the lever and the seat flys ALL the way back...stretch would fit in an a-body nicely with this setup i can assure you of that
 
if you want a couple more inches out of the seats..take the passenger tracks and move them to the driverside BACKWARDS, swap the driver to the passenger...you get a good couple inches.....now mind you there is one down side, pull the lever and the seat flys ALL the way back...stretch would fit in an a-body nicely with this setup i can assure you of that

I don't know how tall stretchy is, but I'm 6'6".. Does this work with a bench? The Dart's fine, but the Valiant's a little tight in the front for any long period of time.
 
best i can tell yes...your not moving the pedistals but the tracks.......its been AGES since i did it, i found the bench in my 67 fish to be satasfactory and i was always hauling more bodys in the back...my 69 i couldnt get enuf room with buckets and flipped the tracks...did it again on another 69 with OEM buckets in theory it would probably work across teh entire mopar line
 
The Slap Stiks aren't awkward at all. The factory A-body/pre-'71 B-body shifters are awkward as hell.

You got your QuickSilver a couple of years' time after Josh got his. That thing always felt like it was going to fall apart to me, but Josh beat the hell out of it and didn't break it--mind you, Josh is the kind of idiot driver that would bend linkage rods on a 4-speed. :D I got the impression he thought beating the shifter made him look cool. It didn't; in fact the effect was quite the opposite.
 
To add to the abuses I now has a nice set of .030 360 KB pistons, a 408 stroker crank and a virgin 360 block in addition to the intake.
 
To bad about the KB pistons (assuming they are of the hypereutectic verity).
 
In a low-RPM, natural-aspiration application they should be alright. Start out with it jetted fat and sneak up on the timing during tuning and it should live. With a factory-style intake rocker, it's just not going to be a late-RPM screamer. It'll do all its partying early, and want to be home around 6. :D

If there's any thought of upgrading to forced induction later though, it would behoove one to eBay those slugs and use the money toward forged replacements. 71 posted a link elsewhere to the specific pistons he acquired, and there are other factors at play here beyond the fact that they're hypereutectic, such as dome design and static CR.
 

SiteLock

SiteLock
Back
Top