Wailing & gnashing of teeth...

Dr.Jass

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It all seemed so simple... buy a nice Southern Challenger from a trusted friend & board member, and build it to my desires. Sure, it needs a little bit of love here and there, but I'll be way ahead of the game with something out of the South for sure.

Well, one would think that, wouldn't one?

So, v8440 gave me a price on his '74 Challenger, about which I'd pestered him on and off for several years. It was too good of a deal to pass, so I cashed in my paltry "retirement" from the parts store and sent the check based on a whole bunch of very-good pictures he'd taken. The car was, particularly for my neck of the woods, stunning--it needed only a couple of small patches and a new roof panel. Stretch and his father-in-law, whose board name I can't recall at the moment, were kind enough to journey with me to get the car. v8440 threw in a passle of parts, some of which are needed and some of which aren't but I won't turn my nose up at spares either. I've been as giddy as a little kid on December 23rd since I got the car home and started collecting parts to revive it in the style I want it.

Then I started Phase I this past weekend: removal of the old roof panel, and the horror started.

Now, before anyone gets the wrong idea, v8440 is a stand-up guy who's also a blast to be around. This in no way reflects poorly on him, as there's no way he could've known about what I've discovered unless he's already cut the roof off, yelled "Oh shit!", welded the roof back into place, and hidden everything. Extremely well. With rather magnificent lead & plastic filler skills. There's no way the damage could've been seen any other way, so I am still endlessy thankful that he sold me this car at the price he did, and I would have no problem dealing with him again monetarily should the need or opportunity arise. I cannot emphasize this enough. I don't see it any other way, nor should anyone else, capiche?

So, this is turning out to be much more of a project than originally intended. I'm a little disappointed obviously, but it takes work to fulfill a dream and this is one I will work to achieve. So, follow along with me as I start the rebuild of my '74 Challenger not from the ground up, but from the top down. :doh:
 
I will post many pictures of before/during/after, but I have to organize them first and find what I want to post. For now, I'm going to head out and continue on the roof removal while I've still got energy & some time. Stay tuned.

The first picture I ever saw of this car, many years back, that caused me to fall in love with it (having owned a black '73 after high school):

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Safely nestled in my garage after the long journey to Alabama to retrieve it:

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The obvious roof damage that prompted my ordering a full reproduction roof panel:

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Actually, welcome to the wonderful world of vinyl top damage--keeping in mind that this car hasn't had one in probably a decade or more. The lower corners of the quarter windows show the classic signs of where these cars held moisture. It's never seen a MI snowflake, Fishy. I got it home in early May and it came from southern Alabama, going directly into my garage and not having been out since that day.

I'm sorting through a ton of pictures at the moment. I got the roof off the car last night, and much to my relief there's no more damage to it than what I discovered before I got it off the car. Once I get the rough areas cut away it should be a relatively easy fix, compared to what I was expecting.
 
I was referring to the fact that in the first pic, it's black. Your pics are a white car.
 
Oh, OK. :D Apparently, somewhere along the lines it was on its way to being silver, so that explains the white primer.
 
Cool! I haven't been here in awhile, and see the good doc bought a Challenger :-)

How cool is that?
 
Well, seeing the car with the roof cut off it kind of took the wind out of my sails, but I'm still pretty stoked about it. I'm just intimidated by the amount of work that roof represents for me working alone in my garage...
 
honestly i bet the car looks pretty good with the roof hacked off
You'd bet wrong. It looks like crap. It still has the roof structure and the full quarter panels, remember. It's far from "hacked off", too--I drilled out every single fucking spotweld in that prick. :doh: I'd still be working on that if it hadn't have been for restoman's (rescueman?) recommendation to use RotaBroach cutters. Way better than the standard spotweld cutters most guys use. :dance:

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i know you didnt hack it....and it does look pretty cool with the top off...i could see a rag center hard top...as well as some kind of glass roof weirdness
 
i know you didnt hack it....and it does look pretty cool with the top off...i could see a rag center hard top...as well as some kind of glass roof weirdness

There was 72-74 Challenger in the swap meet at a car show many years ago. It had a fold back vinyl top..like an A-body car. It was an old car, and not a fresh resto. It was blue in color and "appeared" to be original. I have never come across this option on an E-body, so if it was converted, it was done many years before it showed up in the swap meet.

Wish I had snapped a picture of it. I have never seen the car again.
 
cow i know wildcat had either a chally or a b body with that EXACT same setup...the car was...rough to say the least but it deffinatly looked like a body parts slipped into it and the one he had was clearly no after market hack job.....so crazy uber rare option...maybe?
 
Sorry, Jester... she's gonna be black.

E-bodies never came with a folding sunroof. They were available from '70-'72 with the standard sliding panel used on the B-bodies '69-73, but that was it. The ones you guys have seen would've been conversions, very possibly done by the company that did the A-body stuff. The '70s& early '80s were the heyday of aftermarket conversions for that kind of thing, so it seems very plausible. Remember Mirada/J-doba convertibles? There are a lot of those running around, none of which are factory. There were at least two different companies doing them, though.
 

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