The Stash

Dr.Jass

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A couple of weeks ago I bought a set of 14x6 chrome-reverse wheels for the Valiant off eBay. They were "pickup only" and the guy was only a couple of hours away, so today my friend Pete and I took a roadie to go fetch them. Pete wasn't real excited about it, because he's a Ford guy. I told him it looked like the guy had stuff from all different brands so there might be something for him there.

When we pulled into the yard, the first thing we saw was a '73 Firebird Formula 350 auto. There was no interior, but there wasn't any rust either. It was sitting on WS6 snowflake wheels. I swooned a bit, I've gotta be honest. Behind that was a '66 International TravelAll, again without a spot of rust. Pete started eyeballing that and a similar-condition '78 Bronco, then noticed the '79 Ford 2WD shortbox (almost) of his dreams near that. There's literally no rust on any of this stuff.

Dude introduced himself and we got after digging out my wheels. They're exactly as described and since I plan to blast and paint them anyhow, I wasn't concerned with the rust. I asked him what other kinds of Mopar treasures he might have lying around... "I guessed you had more so I brought extra cash." He smiled. I did not bring nearly enough cash.

"Most of the stuff in this building isn't for sale, but there's some parts in here anyhow." He opened the garage door and I beheld a '57 Belvedere convertible, still in its original paint... and totally rust-free. Nice interior, top was down so that's probably rough. "I told some guy 17 on this car, and he tried to offer me 15. Apparently he thought I meant hundred. Asked him what the hell was wrong with him." In front of that was a '70 'Cuda, E5 Rallye Red, 340/4-speed, black interior, with factory elastomeric bumpers. The next thing that jumped to the eye was the '69 Corvette convertible body literally on a shelf, up high. Perpendicular to the 'Cuda was a '70 Challenger convertible; it was originally a non-HP car but it has the entire drivetrain from a '71 'Cuda in it, 440 Six Pack and all. Next to that was a '70 'Cuda convertible, SubLime green. It was alongside a '67 Corvette convertible; "If I ever dig that thing out I'm putting a 4-speed in it." I wasn't asking much since this stuff wasn't for sale, so I didn't get too many details (and the cars are seriously buried) in parts. There was also a '67 Chevelle SS in there.

We were looking for "Plymouth Division" dog-dishes, so we went over to the building's addition. As he opened the door, he said, "I thought this would solve my space problems, but..." It was equally jammed with stuff. Parked inside the door was a'69 Cougar 351-4V auto. Perpendicular to that was a red '68 Bronco. "I've already turned down 25 [thousand] on that. Early Broncos are nuts." Between the two was a complete 409 engine, just lying there. I think that was the same area that held a '67 LeMans. The rafters were packed with parts. There was another Challenger in there, this one I believe a '71 but I couldn't even see it. The other thing I couldn't see, anywhere, was rust. I'd yet to encounter it anywhere except on the wheels I'd bought.

The search for the dog-dish hubcaps (we'd found one good one) turned into a full-blown tour. Another door, another treasure, variously: another E5 'Cuda (this one a '71), a '29 Model A, a '57 T-bird, another '67 Chevelle, a '39 Chevy. Still no rot. Everything buried in decades' worth of collected parts. We walked between two buildings, and finally I found rust! I call it "desert rust". It was '70 Barracuda with surface rust on the roof and tops of quarters, etc. A peek through the taillamp opening showed an incredible-condition trunk pan and extension. It was sitting next to a nice '67 Skylark. Both were missing parts but excellent projects; the fish was a factory Slant Six/console-shift car.

Next we walked around to the other end of that building, and between it and another. "That's actually a U.P. car," he said, indicating a slightly-rusted (comparatively speaking) '69 Mach 1 shell. It was sitting ahead of a rust-free early-'80s (solid axle) Toyota pickup, off one corner of which was a '67 Mustang fastback and the other another clean vintage Toyota truck.

It was really too much to all take in at once... my brain was overloaded so I can't remember everything I saw. I remember a completely-unfaded '70-'71 E-body Rallye cluster just sitting on something... maybe the hood of the red 'Cuda. Dude had not one, but two factory Comet drag-car fiberglass hoods... doesn't have a Comet. I even saw an NOS LH '71 'Cuda fender--yeah, with the gills--up on a shelf next to some other rust-free E-body sheetmetal. I've never seen that many original Torq-Thrust style wheels in one place, including swap meets.

From what I could gather, he left home around age 16 and bugged out to California. He lived out there for several years and made a lot of contacts and friends, including several scrapyard owners. As in, it was free. Anyhow, these guys call him up and tell him they have something old, so come and get it next time you're out here. That's how he got virtually all of this stuff; he's been running back and forth for decades with clean California cars.

He's just got so much cool stuff, and he's reasonably priced as well. Pete's all mental about that F150, and if he doesn't buy it another friend will so I'm sure I'll be back out there before too long. Hopefully I'll have a little more time (and maybe money) to burn. One reason is because, after showing me one he'd just got, he said there's "at least three or four more" 340s lying around somewhere, and he knows two of 'em are standard bore.

I did not take pictures. I didn't want him to think I didn't mean business or was just being a looky-loo. I bought a couple of additional parts from him and told him I'd be back. Next go-round, I'll bring the camera.
 
"...'70 'Cuda, E5 Rallye Red, 340/4-speed, black interior, with factory elastomeric bumpers."
That's just #1 on my "what I would buy if I won the lottery" list!
 
Yeah, I about fell over when I saw the front bumper. I asked what I was looking at, and he listed off the spec sheet, including the rear bumper. I'm generally not a big fan of red, but that car seriously tripped my trigger. The Belvedere convertible was incredible, too. That may have been the first time I truly felt lust for a '50s anything.

Both are in the "not for sale" shed, but I get the impression that everything's for sale if the offer is right. I wouldn't even consider throwing numbers at him until I had money in my pocket, though... and he mentioned turning down a pile of money for that Bronco, so I doubt it would come cheaply.
 
sounds like that guys got piles n oodles of cool..get a camera out there!!!!

doc did you find said hub caps?..if not which ones exactly do you need?...ive stashed a good deal of them away over the years and just might have a set

as a side note im actualy digging just about everything out on a hunt and re-packing alot of it as im hunting for specific lloyd stuff and it up n went poof
 
The hubcap I need--I only need one at this point--is the brushed-stainless Plymouth cap used starting in 1969. It looks like the cop hubcaps, but with "PLYMOUTH DIVISION" stamped instead of the drilled holes. I had two already and he had one good one and one that was just too badly damaged. These are the wheels I bought, with the one hubcap he had installed:

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Of special interest to you, 69.5--because I know you love 'em--he asked me if I was interested in any small-bolt Cragar S/S wheels. I said I wasn't, but he said he'd just brought back three with him... "There's always only three. Seems like one always got wrecked somehow. Anyhow, I think I have three sets of three." The one he had lying right there was pretty rough, but it was clearly very-early stuff--it didn't look like the ones I normally see. If that's something you want me to investigate further next time out, I'll give him a heads-up and see what he can find and photograph.
 
ok doc if thats the style you need i KNOW i have a bunch of em..with moms cancer n everything else my time is random as hell, but like i said im digging EVERYTHING OUT and repacking...when i find it ill let you know

youve got me curious on the small bolt at the very least...as i know how impossible they are to find...but...i wouldnt be intrested in more than 2

any chance he has any say 15x10 set of 4 slots.....like i said..out here a full matched set of 4 doesnt seem to exist..im not sure a set of 35x12.50x15s would sit well on 8's
 
I'd almost bet he has them, but figuring out where all four are might take awhile. Guy has more wheels than a swap meet. I've got to e-mail him about some other bits so I'll mention those. Do you have a particular or general backspacing measurement in mind? Or "four of the same is close enough"?

A 275-series tire (which is a 10.83" section width) fits nicely on an 8" rim in a 60-series. Because of the added height of the 35s, they might be OK on an 8"... but, all TireRack's measurements for that size are done on a 10" rim. They recommend a minimum of 8.5" so I'd be more apt to go with 10" too.

Let me know what you find on the hubcap. Two would be great, but if you only find one that'd suffice as long as it's not mangled.
 
as far as offset, well...they are going on a truck so deep/wide offset, really its going to come down to what i can find at this point, ive got westerns on my RC that im proud of, would love another set fo rthe rig ill be building since..its a friends truck ..but i couldnt give you an offset if i tried

i KNOW in my cap stash ive got atleast a full set and a partial of the blanks and the divisions as well as the smoothies? with the plymouth logo in the middle its a matter of finding the 2 boxes in the rafters, but its ALL coming down ...i cant find the bolt and switch box for my lloyd...and the roof bolts for it are SQUARE THREAD
 
What a cool thing to stumble upon!

I was in a bidding war for an all original EV2 71 Cuda, 340/4spd, elastic bumpers, shaker, black buckets, no console, front and rear spoilers, rear window louvers etc...window sticker, build sheet, fender tags all matched, this was early 90's....I finally ran out of money and the other guy got the car. :(

Saw the car at a show many years later and met the owner, and after talking a bit we realized who we were and he said with a smile on his face..."So you're the guy who cost me an extra 10K for the car.."

Any chance he's got a 71 Superbee in decent shape?
 
Any chance he's got a 71 Superbee in decent shape?

I was surprised to see that the only Mopar stuff he seemed to have was E-bodies (and a couple of trucks). The only specific B-body part I remember seeing was a '68-'70 woodgrain Rallye cluster.

The plan is to return Sunday to fetch the F150. Pete has decided he just can't live without it. 😁
 
I neglected to come back to this.

When we returned to buy that Ford pickup (an F100, of course, not F150) I axed him aboot the 'Cuda. It's definitely not currently for sale, and I'm third on the list on a car for which he wants north of $40,000. It may be worth it under all that dust, but that number is out of my league. As much as I love the car, I don't love it quite enough to mortgage my soul for it.

Something else has caught my attention anyhow. More on that as details become available...
 
My Aunt briefly owned a '76 F-100 short box, with a 360 engine. Nice truck.
The one time I drove it I discovered that it would annihilate the rear tires at will (both of them), but 75 mph seemed to be a stretch for it.
 
doc how nice of PD caps are you looking for and how many...so far ive only come across one from my stash...i know theres more ive just not yet found them
 

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