I dont want to appear crazy or anything but- isnt it about time we just

Time and time again its been reported that Iran isn't developing bombs. Like us, they have no MONEY to start a war. Their economy is just as bad as ours. I got this from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7149637.stm

Ummmmm...just in case you never heard, hostile nations lie about their military capabilities to mislead their enemies.


Like the US, Iran is a democratic state. From what I have read, the people there are pissed with him and it seems more than likely that he won't be in office within a matter of years.

Democratic?

Ask their women how democratic it is.

You think we need to attack iran because "they want us dead." I do know that Ahmadinejad said that he wants Bush dead, or something like that. The middle east is a highly religious state. They hate us because we are there. We're fighting a religious war and their is no point to it. Muslims continue to fight for religion. They are pissed over our occupation of their land.


You are confusing religion with fanaticism. The muslim people I know would never behave in the manner these thugs do. The religion has been twisted by violent, evil people. This includes Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - a man who publicly states that women are little better than breeding animals and that the Nazi holocaust that killed 6 million jews is a "myth."

Simply put: Occupation breeds terrorism..

Fanaticism breeds terrorism.

Have you ever heard of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict? The Muslims continue to fight and will not stop. All for a simple piece of land. You ask me to learn from history. Is this not history enough?

No it's not. There is a far bigger picture that you are missing.

We are fighting a war we can't win. I may not have lived through the Vietnam war but i do know that we swallowed our pride and came home. As it sits now we trade and are diplomatic with vietnam. ..

Good example. Yet another conflict the US entered and didn't TRY to win.

Yeah, Ahmadinejad does dislike America. There is no need to have that stop us from diplomacy. If peace can be had without bloodshed it's a move in the right direction. Plane and simple...

Negotiate with the mad dog...it's going to try to tear your throat out either way, but why not toss some flowers at it instead of bullets?

Yet again, no need to poke fun at people Gio....

I think what Gio was getting at is that mebbe you need a little more life experience before you start ripping other peoples foreign policy. Maybe spend a few years paying bills and being responsible for someone other than yourself.



Ron Paul is not a seperationalist, he is a non-interventionalist. Look it up, you'll be surprised that FDR was one too.

MMM-Hmmm, true - and millions (not thousands, not tens of thousands, not hundreds of thousands, but millions) of people in Europe may have died unnecessarily because FDR chose to sit WW2 out until he was forced into it by the Japanese. Great policy that was.


Now I ask, do you feel that I am an idiot anymore?

Again - you are not an idiot. Just very young - and naive
 
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Nope... Feelings are for Women. Dropping bombs on people who want to kill us all makes logical sense to me. Loss of innocent life is acceptable in trying to weed out all the fucked up "praise allah while I blow myself and everyone around me up" bullshit.

Lets just drop a few nukes, and rebuild from scratch. I'm even willing to export the ragheads from canada to help rebuild the desert of glass.

prejudice? Yup, and annoyed that so many have moved here and take precedence over White men, when it comes to being hired.


Fuck.
WOOOOOOOHHHOOOOEEEEE :giggedy:JESTER- what you eaten. wow . never heard you atand like this . and dont thro any sexual conotation on this at all. this is good.good show. comingfrom the Canadian contingent here great, i am also tired of the crap we are getting to. we can live with them over here. the muslims here want to get along and send money back home and they are quit about it. here in Sarnia they built a MOSQUE -- and whoever thot this plan out was a genius on their part .. hey built it next to coffee shop. who goes to a coffee shop? cops . cheap insurance if you ask me . and there is a large motel next to it. so go figure eh. but in their bible they say to lie to the infedel and kill when you have a chance. look uo Danial Pipes and read what he has to say. he is the one who BUSH phoned when BUSH got imto trouble. PIPES tells the trutj about them and he has made it know that he has a moral burn on for them. glad you spoke up Jester. :bwuhaha:
 
hey JR what do you think of a guy who really gets away withmurder. well it has happened so many times in a muslim country. so far 2 last year were aquitted. they came on tv and saisd that his dog obeys better than his wife did and for him to train his wife wouldtake to ong considering that his dog was trained in 2 weeks. and if the dog does not do what he wants he beats or kills it. and quoted from the muslim bible and they let him free and the other was doing 12 years and on his second hearing he offered a cow and suggested that the cow works better than a woman and can give milk to that this would be more than the fine and would be good to take and the deal was done and walked away to his farm 1 hour later. and he now has a second wife and she is barely alive. --- you can find this stuff on ANMESTY INTERNATIONAL. LOOK IT UP KID. EDUCATE YOURSELF. I WILL NEVER LET A MUSLIM IN MY HOUSE. and people around here no it. i hate women beaters. and sheep fuckers and didlers.. they can do that to. why do you think Michel Jackson went to the United Emerites.because that is the norm over there. i bet when and if ever he gets thrown into jail he wont be saying GRAB THIS when he is in the mood to sing. freak... :)
 
How come I'm never around when these things happen? Although he's probably a steroid monkey, I'd still intervene.
 
I think what Gio was getting at is that mebbe you need a little more life experience before you start ripping other peoples foreign policy. Maybe spend a few years paying bills and being responsible for someone other than yourself.

Again - you are not an idiot. Just very young - and naive

What he said JR, I dont want to piss on your parade but ron paul wants to have ALL troops from around the world brought back home to guard our borders.
Guess what?, if another nation wants a war with us and we're backed up against the wall already and making the other rogue nations who want to gladly kill us know we wont touch them till they get here is not smart foriegn policy.

I am really impressed you decided to back out of college, but I think you should just get a regular job for a couple years and not get so brainwashed so fast at these crappy colleges we have.

Peace Bro.:cool:
 
Hey JR, your probably right I should not have called you an idiot as I dont know you. For that I do apologize.I do fell however you are misguided.

I work in a world where most victims in life are those who are unprepared and or unwilling to admit there are dangers to begin with or at least recognize dangers.

As far as Iran, all I can say is the same as what a previous member brought up, Hitler was classified as a nothing of a nut and nothing to worry about. The U.S attempted to stay out of that conflict and look where it got us! If the U.S had entered that conflict 3 years earlier, it would been over almost before it started.

I am not only concerned about Iran and the so-called Demorcracy that is absolutely controlled by Mullas, not the president, but I am also concerned about CHina whos goods we buy, not to mention Russia who is backsliding into communism again. Its becoming a dangerous world and I want a strong leader.

that is all

LAWFISH
 

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