Helluva sleeper idea with what I have

v8440

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Helluva sleeper idea with what I have (with pics!)

Hi all,
My buddy John (wontgetdusted) came up with a great idea for a cheap sleeper for me. Here it is:
You guys may remember that I sold him a '75 dart sport that had been wrecked. From it we pulled a running 318, 904 trans, 8 1/4 rearend, driveshaft, etc. (the importance of this will become apparent shortly...)
It so happens that not long ago the recently-swapped-in /6 in my '70 4 door green valiant developed the Rod Knock Of Jesus. There the car sits, terrible looking but in basically good shape except for the engine. Now, let me list some stuff that I have sitting around, both mine and stuff John owns but is not going to use...
Running-when-pulled 1977 360 2 bbl motor and 904 trans
1976 vintage W2 heads, modified to use a standard intake manifold
A set hi po a body manifolds (from a 340 car)
An a body 8 1/4 rearend with 2.45 gears
In a junkyard is a dakota with an 8 1/4 with 3.55's and a suregrip
Either a stock iron or a performer rpm intake manifold
Freshly rebuilt 800 cfm thermobog
Another buddy is a TCI dealer-a breakaway converter will run about $150
A set of superstock springs
A set of adjustable lakewood front drag shocks
A set of MP rear drag shocks
Nitrous bottle, line, and solenoids
A buddy who owns a muffler shop
You see where this is going, I'm sure. The plan is, stick the 360 off in the green valiant with a 904 and about a 2400 rpm converter. Put a shift kit in the transmission, leaving the valvebody full auto so I can continue feeling the column shifter love. Put the 3.55 suregrip setup in the 8 1/4 a body housing, and install that in place of the current 7 1/4. The 360 will get either John's stock iron intake or my performer rpm intake. If I go the edelbrock route, I'll grind off the letters on the manifold that would give it away, and paint it to match the rest of the engine. I'll also put the 800 thermobog on there instead of a holley-same reason I'll use the hi-po manifolds I just happen to have lying around. Inside the air filter housing will be the nitrous and fuel solenoid, as well as a top shot nozzle. That way, I can pull the air filter off and show them that there's no nitrous or big holley carb. The line and wires will be hidden in vacuum lines. The suspension will also be quietly up to snuff, with the aforementioned superstock springs, and drag shocks. For a cam, I'm probably gonna run an edelbrock performer (not performer rpm) cam, and shift at about 5500 rpm or so. I hear those cams work especially well on the bottle, and it ought to sound about stock at idle in a 360. If a teardown shows I must go through the motor, I have a good buddy at a machine shop who LOVES smallblock mopars. To keep it cheap, if a rebuild is needed I'll probably run stock replacement '71 cast pistons. 1971 because that's the one year that used flattops instead of a dish-cheap and easy compression gain.
No flashy aftermarket wheels here-stock cop wheels with the dog dish hubcaps correct for the car on them. I'll weld subframe connectors safely out of sight, and leave the cage for some other car.
Oh, the car has working power steering and a/c. I see no reason to change that-I'll leave those hooked up. What do you guys think? I bet it'll go 11.80's or quicker on the bottle if I can get everything dialed in right, and look funny as hell doing it.
 

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One more picture that wouldn't fit in the last post...
 

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DO IT!! Sounds like a good combo. About all that I would do differently is full wheel covers. :shifty:
 
Oh, I have the stock hubcaps, and they'll be on the car. They just didn't happen to be on when I took those photos.

Though you can't really see the interior, believe me that it's ratty and old person-looking. Cheap seat covers, back seat coming apart at the top where the sun hits it, old rubber floor instead of carpet from the factory, 10 million cracks in the dashpad, etc. I'll leave it just like that, too. I'll probably have to put oil pressure and water temp gauges in the car, but that'll be it. No tach-if a shiftlight is needed, it'll go somewhere up under the dash or in an a/c vent so it can't been seen by others and won't light up the whole car when it comes on.
 
v8440 said:
No tach-if a shiftlight is needed, it'll go somewhere up under the dash or in an a/c vent so it can't been seen by others and won't light up the whole car when it comes on.

Run it to the oil light, when the red light comes on everyone will think you wasted the motor.:shifty:
 
ill have to dig around and see if i still have pics of my factory looking rail connectors..actualy it made it look like the car came stock with full rails and there 100% flush to the floor and the front and rear rails
 

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That would be sweet, thought about doing something like that for years...I was gonna use a beat up '77 4 door Volare I had
 
ORVIL said:
hey 69---how do work on your car sideways like that....WOW what a space saver----

It's super helpful if you can't weld overhead.:toot:
 
i can see where that would work:bwuhaha: lousy for oil changes tho[smilie=2: on the bright side:rolleyes: --:bwuhaha: :bwuhaha: ----im lookin - im lookin:doh: :bwuhaha: lol ORVIL
 
LOL that pic was taken while the car was up for exhaust ...i did that work laying on my back on a garage floor...im thankfull for my stands that go a lil over 2 foot up
 
OOPS sorry about that.. you mean to say that it wasn,t on it,s side? what was i thinkin? thot you had a great idea.. gotta study these pic,s better than i do... it got me all jacked up------
 
Well, it looks like I'm gonna have to spring for at least one moderately high dollar part to make my proposed engine combo work. I need a dual plane manifold that will fit my w2 heads with oval intake ports. I want to use those heads because they'll be considerably better than any other stock head I can slap on the motor, and they will give it good compression with a dished piston. My machinist just measured a combustion chamber today-it was 63cc. I had hoped to drill a conventional intake to use the w2 bolt pattern, but the choke stove on all the ones I have will get in the way. Then, there's the issue of the ports being the wrong shape...so I need this one manifold to solve the problem. It's not THAT expensive-I've found one for $228 plus shipping. I also put a want ad here and on cuda-challenger.com, just in case someone happens to have one collecting dust on a shelf.
 
Update: Pulled the heads off the 360 in question, and it's std bore! I really didn't expect that from a 1977 engine, but it was in a station wagon, so I guess it had an easy life. It'll still need to be bored, but the cylinder walls look great-they should easily clean up at .030". That ought to be one torquey bastard of a 360, with about 9.3:1 compression, small cam, breathing through manifolds...
 
I LOVE the idea.Dents,primer,missmatched paint,MUD...Sounds like the PERFECT sleeper!!!Don't put ALL the wheel covers back on, though.One or two "missing" would be even better!
 

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