74 Ramcharger...with a cummins

he's dropped the price 1k in 2 years........shows ya how moivated he is to sell it....you read the description and have to wonder how hacked that frame is....it certainly doesnt sound good in the desc...lol says he built it a year and a half ago...funny ive been watching it for 2 years and that was what he was saying then

but it sure it pretty on the outside and a cummins to boot
 
thats exactly what im thinking too cow.......i mean you read that desc a few times and you start scratching your head...why did he swap hack and cut mutiple frames?....i could see adding mounts to the stock frame...even boxing the stock frame...but to take a 90s frame and hack the crap out of it and bring it back together in a maner that will survive and look safe and then tack on the tail 2 feet of stock frame?.....sounds like a frankenstine from hell to me

i mean isnt a 92 and a 72 still the same frame (given the right body ie long box is a long box) i thought the frames didnt change till 96.....tho i do know the 74 RC had a weird engine member compared to a 76.........but still ok lets just swap in the crossmembers from the diesel (does that even need to be done?)and call it done?!?!?!?
 
The frame changed in '94 with the introduction of the T300 body style... but I see what you're saying, 69.5.
 
hmm wonder why i think its 96 lol

curious..did they even change the "riveted in" crossmembers on the 4x cummins trucks from the stockers?
 
Some guys claim the diesel cross members are different...but I can't see any differences. My 84 crew was a gasser and the cummins just dropped in the hole...no mods!
 
Special crossmembers are rare, but not impossible. Usually, they'll just revise the mounts to make something fit. Call it a lesson learned after losing tons of money on Hemi cars over the years.
 
Dr.Jass said:
Special crossmembers are rare, but not impossible.
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If you've got a welder and a hacksaw, anything's possible. I grew up in the era of thinking "an engine's an engine" I've cross-bread Olds-to-Poncho, Olds-to-Merc, chev-to-Plymouth, (Yea, shaddup, I was young) chev-to-TR7, Buford-to-Mazda, big blocks were they were never intended, V8's were 4cyl came from, V8's on tractors and corvair to motorcycle. :shifty:
 
Diplomat_Wagon said:
Blasphemy!
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What, it was a natural.
#1. Air cooled
#2. The trans bolts up with 180deg rotation, now you have front engine instead of rear. Powerslide works great upside down. :doh:
#3. weld control arms solid
#4. find usable fork assembly
#5. fabricate frame
#6. open throttle
#7. look at sky [smilie=2:
 
hmm corvair seems atleast unique compared to VW

i figured if anything was changed on a diesel truck it would be the t-case member which is a bolt in anyway

but all of this further raises the question...why hack in a frame?
 
I saw a guy cross a corvair with a motorcycle once. The guy on the bike didn't fair too well.
 
It's flagged for removal now. At least, that's what craigslist says when I clicked on the link.
 
Yeah there are guys who build cummins ramchargers...Mark Nixon built a nice one. No need to mess around with the frames. Maybe a little beefing, or boxing in areas that might be known to be weak, but that should be all that's necessary.
 
Definately reinforcing the area around where the steering box bolts to the frame is a good idea.
 
with as hard as i beat the holy crap out of my rc i NEVER hurt the steering box area..i even totaled a steering box......i think the box frame strength issue is a 2wd thing?..shrug...

i put atleast 15+ cracks in my frame....and still have it around somewhere....the real weak point in my 10 years of hunting for a frame is the front shock towers atleast 75% of ALL 4x4 dodge trucks seem to be cracked there..problem is you probably wouldnt know for a long time as they crack from the bottom mounting bolt down to the frame edge and then up tward the top..9 out of 10 times its the passenger side ...mine the passeneger side had cracked all but 1/4 inch from being all the way around... driver side was up to the second mounting hole...the "fix" here is to get a 12inchx1/4inch plate drill it for the tower bolt it in and then fully weld it in...pretty much any abuse you can throw at it...it will hold even on a already totaled frame

the other point i found weak was the front pring hanger area being some frames are a combination bolt and rivet....bad idea on a 4x..and then the t-case mount areas if your mean the t-case gets hit the frame takes the impact

yes my truck was flat out ABUSED..and i know it spent time 10+ feet in the air in the desert....hell i jumped it off one bad ass set of humped tracks at high speed bounced back off the ground 3 times after landing..scary ride..and to wheel with me ment you really should have a helmet on..ask fishy

but of all the frames i looked at for replacement of my frame i never once came across a truck with a cracked area around the steering box...not even on short box trucks..but most every truck was tracked at the towers...yes i was so desperate i was considering hacking a short base truck to fit under an RC body which is considerably shorter than a short box
 
It's so much of a non-issue that dodge built a brace for the later 1st gen diesels specifically for that area. If I dig around, I can probably get you a part number for the brace.

I've welded up a few, both on trucks and vans.
 
hmmmm...vans?!?!? ok now it definatly sounds like a 2wd thing...cause the 4x had a HUGE cast unit bracket that was probably the beefiest mount for anything ive ever seen on a truck
 
I'm still trying to find pics of that factory Cummins-equipped early-'90s Ramcharger I saw at the Mopar Nationals. If it was a fake, he went whole-hog right down to the window sticker. It was white with a red interior, and took place in the burnout competition behind our hotel. My friend Danny was particularly interested in it, which is how we got to see the original window sticker, paperwork, etc. I want to say the truck was a '91. According to the owner, less than 10 were built. I can't remember the exact number, but it may have been as low as 2.

This falls into the "I know what I saw" category, along with the '71 4-speed SS454 Monte Carlo for sale on a lot on Hwy 78 when I lived in Atlanta, which Chevy enthusiasts have exasperatingly told me could not, and does not, exist... even though the option sheets showed a heavy-duty clutch option for the LS6 engine.
 
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