Turbo line problems 1989 lebaron

jarrenboyd

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2.5 turbo, got new lines from forward motion, and it looks like I need one more fitting does anybody know where I may get this fitting for what its pacifically is called
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the right side has the correct adapter, left side needs an adapter . Any help with terminology please

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any "good" hyd line shop should stock what you need...i know here localy i have a place...and if you were local id point you at them...but ive no clue as to the thread size/pitch
 
Did this come already threaded together, or did you assemble it yourself? There already more adapters on that left end than would make me comfortable. Why on Earth they'd use a double-male JIC to JIC, then turn the 90 with a male/female JIC is beyond me. That can be done in one fitting, and they make a long 90 for applications like that. Actually, why they didn't use a hose with a 90 on one end is even further out of my grasp. This would actually be a better photo with the pieces separated but left in order of how they're assembled... that way I'd know that the first fitting threaded into the hose itself is actually a double male JIC.

Regardless, the end of the line is a 37° JIC (a.k.a. AN) fitting. I can't tell from the picture whether it's a -3 or -4 fitting, but the "dash number" is the number of sixteenths of an inch ("-3" is 3/16", "-4" is 1/4", "-6" is 3/8", etc.). I'm going to make an assumption that your turbo uses a 1/8"NPT female thread, but I'd like to see a picture of it. I'd also like to know which turbo it is you're using. My turbos are configured to use either a gasketed adapter fitting with a two-bolt flange or a 1/8"NPT fitting, but they're not Mopar-specific turbochargers nor are they going on a four-cylinder. Not knowing what fitting goes into the turbo, I can't really help beyond that.

One thing that needs to be said: you absolutely need a counterperson who knows their fittings well. There's another flare standard that looks very similar to JIC/AN, which is SAE45. It uses a 45° angle on that tapered nose rather than the 37° flare, and you'll never get it to seal even though it threads together like butter.
 
More great learning from the Doc...Thanks! I have never understood the AN numbers and such....nor have I really tried to either. But that is a good base understanding.
 
JIC and AN are the same 37° flare, with the only basic difference being that JIC is usually brass or steel, and AN is usually aluminum (though Aeroquip, Earl's, etc. sell steel AN fittings, which are actually just plumbing-store parts). "AN" literally stands for "Army-Navy", which is where the JIC standard was applied to allow quick, reliable repairs and replacements in the field during battle. A little trivia: AN fittings as we know them first ended up on cars in the late '50s when enterprising drag racers were doing a lot of their shopping at army surplus stores. That trend continued for many years; the first modern Top Fuel supply pump, debuted at Indy in 1982, was actually something Don Prudhomme's crew chief found in such a store: a wing-tank fuel transfer pump from a B-52 Stratofortress.

SAE 45° in the JIC-style fitting is actually less common, though you will find it occasionally on cars and a little more often on diesels and medium/heavy-duty trucks. Generally, you'll see the standard used in an inverted-flare arrangment, such as brake and fuel lines. The non-inverted, JIC-looking fittings use the same threads as JIC/AN with the exception of -6 (3/8"), -10 (5/8") and -12 (3/4"), if memory serves (and it may not, so don't quote me). Mixed SAE/JIC fittings will not seal when used together. There is a specific type Parker fitting that will accept both, which has been a real trouble saver at the diesel shop. When playing at home, it's important to not mix the two because those Parker fittings are not parts-store items. There's really no reason to use non-inverted SAE fittings except on a factory application such as Torqueflite cooler line connections at the transmission. Other than that, in most cases you'll find SAE fittings in use on hydraulics systems; JIC is not common in that usage but it does exist.
 

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