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moparman21

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When you bought a car, the title was supposedly lost in the mail afterwards, and now the original owner is trying to have it repoed? How do I get outta this shit?:huh:
 
Do you have a bill of sale?

Does he have the title for it?

If not would lock it up and tell him to go fuck himself.
 
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Sounds like you got a problem there. Did you get any kind of receipt when you paid for the car? If you did, you have somoething on your side, if you didn't get one, in reality you are in possession of a stolen car. :(
 
mr340 said:
Sounds like you got a problem there. Did you get any kind of receipt when you paid for the car? If you did, you have somoething on your side, if you didn't get one, in reality you are in possession of a stolen car. :(
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Yes and no, if he has no physical proof of ownership either it's his word against yours.

I really hate people that fuck around like that.:mad:
 
Diplomat_Wagon said:
Yes and no, if he has no physical proof of ownership either it's his word against yours.

I really hate people that fuck around like that.:mad:
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In New Jersey when you sell a vehicle you must provide the buyer with a signed and dated Title. If no title is available the seller must provide some sort of sale documentation stating sale date, sale price, and VIN of said vehicle. If title is lost a new one has to be applied for by, or as Power of Attorney, for the last titled owner. It involves providing photo's of the car, pencil etching of the VIN ( from the dash) and old reg or ins card with the last titled owner name on it and the VIN on it. If done by Power of Attorney, a notarized letter of consent must also be provided to DMV. If you are in possession of the car with no supporting documentation, and the last titled owner gets a bug up his ass, he can report it as stolen, and you will have no recourse. Ultimately a signed and dated title or Bill of Sale is your only defense.

Why does the guy want to repo the car? Do you still owe money on it? If yes, is there a written agreement regarding payment terms? Even with money still owed, you should have had it titled in your name with him listed as lienholder. In that instance he would hold the title till it's paid off, then send the title to you. Also, to repo it hew would need to prove that you are in arrears and go thru legal channels to repo it. There really isn't enough info here to help you with a good answer to your dilemma. Hiding the car might just make it worse, you should research your local laws and see what your options are from there.
 
You're lucky you're not in Ontario - the last registered owner is the only registered owner as far as the Goverment is concerned.
You'd be up Shit Creek without a paddle. Can you swim?
 
I have a bill of sale signed by both of us saying I bought the car for $4100 and it was payed in full by no later than July. But I called the repo place and they said I cannot keep the car. Supposedly since it was an out of state car and he did not let the leinholder know about it, it was sold illegally and I'm out the cash. He never payed it off even. The bank is tired of trying to chase him across the states so they are just taking the car back. I told the guy I do not have the car and will be taking MY personal parts off it ( F1 tires and a new $200 fuel pump) and he seemed fine with that, so now I'm wondering if I should just give them a shell with a VIN if that's all they really need. No where does it say I bought a complete car. I have an attorney waiting to call me back and will see if I have a chance. I called his parents and they haven't heard from him and are extremely pissed now that I'm getting fucked.
 
So the jist of all this is that the guy sold you a car he didn't have legal (title) possession of? If thats the case then theres not much you can do even with a bill of sale. Take your stuff off of it and turn it over. Anything else will just make you into a bad guy too. Take him to small claims court and help make his life even worse, a personal judgement against him will be a nice long term reminder to not be a thief.
Maybe you can work out a deal with whoever holds the title.
 
I think the next one is normal civil court, a call to the county clerk will get you a more accurate answer though.
Is it 2500 max or 2500 base claim? You can usually ask for 3x's damages so 3x's 2500 would still be okay if it's a base claim. Chances are you won't get anything out of him even if he doesn't show up in court but holding a judgement will haunt him until you release it. At some point he'll want to buy a car or a house and there you'll be blocking his path with a hearty 'phock you' :p and the lenders will know he's a sack. A lot of employers check this kind of stuff too.
 
&4 DartSport is right on track here, this guy still had a lienholder, and he was not legally authorized to sell the car period..
 
You didn't hear this from me......



you could trash the car, tell them thats how you got it, and he will have to pay the difference between what they sell it for and whats owed.(if he owes 4100 and the sell the car for 500 he would still owe 3600)
 
tell them it was a glider-kit. works up here for pickups. if someone screwed me like that i would dimantle the car in parts and hand it back. if the lien people don,t want it then ask for a letter stating that and a year later put it back together. they dont want pieces. as for the jerk-off - take him to court because he fraudelently worked you over for the money. he stole and and lied to close a deal. he would get time for that. and have the court make him pay for your lawyer- so now it just got real tight for the guy. don,t let go hang on and fight for the priniple. i would. but then again i might talk to him myself. either way he would not be a happy camper. i hate people who rip and cheat and steel--- give it back in pieces now that i think about it....... and then pencil him in for a session:doh:
 
I have thought about the whole dismantling it thing. I don't know how much of a "car" they need to pick up.. shell and VIN? But someone said if they could somehow prove it was a whole car when I bought it I could be responsible to reassemble it, I don't know for sure though. I'm taking my tires, stereo, and fuel pump out since those are mine and I have proof anyway. So it won't even run when they do pick it up. I've tried multiple courts and they keep giving me the run around, it's fucking rediculous. I have been transferred and redirected enough times. I am going to file or try tonight, my uncle is an ex cop and said that amount of money is a felony and will pretty much screw him from here on out. Even if I can't get my money or car he will never be able to get shit himself. I believe I got him blackballed from his parents too, they don't seem to pleased and said they won't claim him as their son.
 
even if you dissmantle the car...you technicaly bought it and anything that YOU have done to it will come back at him as he falsified selling it to you in the first place


get ahold of the lien company and let them know how bad off and in need of repairs the car is..let them know it doesnt even have wheels and tires.....they may be willing to cut a deal with you on the car
 
69.5CUDA said:
get ahold of the lien company and let them know how bad off and in need of repairs the car is..let them know it doesnt even have wheels and tires.....they may be willing to cut a deal with you on the car
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I agree, they may settle quicker than you think.
 
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