Lock up or non lock up

Unless I'm building for economy, no lockup transmissions for me... particularly the failure-prone non-electronic ones from the '70s and '80s. It's just one more thing to break, and in this case, it usually does.

Of course, that's academic. I much prefer the three-pedal ballet.
 
What are the issues on the non electric lock up trans? So far I'm up to all the clutches and steels wasted and a cracked hub on the converter.
I'm having second thoughts about tossing this thing in the scrap metal pile and using my darts non lock up 904 for this truck.
I don't have a problem rebuilding the lock up one but it appears someone's been in there before.
 
When the converter fails (not if--when), it will either freewheel when it attempts to lock up, often then reverting to 2nd gear, or the converter commits suicide. Or, it will stay locked up, which is quite irritating when trying to sit at a stoplight as the car will stall unless it's in neutral.

It's not really a bad setup on a stocker in which you're not racing or doing heavy-duty towing, and it's great for highway mileage.

Caveat: you can't use a non-lockup converter in a lockup trans (the spline count is different) unless you buy one specifically made that way--they are available--and even then you have to make an internal mod (fairly simple) to the trans for things to work correctly.

If this is for your Dad's truck, I'd probably stick with the lockup converter. If it's for something your wife's gonna drive, maybe not so much. :D
 
I'm looking at the fact of just changing out the front seal on my dart trans and just throwing it in this truck. No fuss, no muss, no dead presidents escaping my wallet on a truck that I'm don't want and most likely am getting stuck with.
Ever seen clutches welded to steels? LOL My nephew did a number on this thing! :bwuhaha:
 
Ever seen clutches welded to steels? LOL My nephew did a number on this thing! :bwuhaha:
Not on a street driver. SS/AA cars, yes.

If it makes you feel any better, when I was 16 I blasted the clutch in my Mom's car so badly, all that was left was the marcel spring between the clutch facings and remnants of the clutch's main plate to which the friction materials/marcel had once been riveted. Even the rivets were lying in the bottom of the bell.

The service manager at the Ford dealership told Mom, "I've been here since the heyday of Super Cobra Jet Torinos, and I've never seen a more-fried clutch. What the hell did he do?!" :D
 
Tranny leaked, nephew added fluid when it slipped or didn't move or just stopped moving all together.
heres one of the better clutches I pulled out. No friction material.:bwuhaha:
 

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