EFFin Theives!!!

There was a Hemi 'Cuda stolen from a hotel parking lot at the Mopar Nationals in 1997. If memory serves, it was root-beer brown; I'd looked at it the night before. It was parked between two '71s, which I remember more clearly because those two '71 cars were owned by the same guy and were Six-Barrel cars with exact-opposite paint/stripe schemes.

Older cars are easy to steal, be they classic Mopars or any GM with the old-style Saginaw steering column (a slide hammer and a screwdriver will have you out of there in under 40 seconds). I hate it for those GN boys; obviously there was a plan in place and it was pulled off by pros. As I'm sure was the case with that Hemi 'Cuda, I'd bet those cars are headed overseas. You can't part out cars like that and not get caught these days. I think money laundering is easier!
 
yeah cars like that theres really only 3 options...parts for your own car, overseas, or a race car that becomes pretty well untraceable
 
The MML (Mopar Mailing List) has always had a parking lot security detail at the Carlisle shows scanning the hotel parking lot. It seems to work but you never know what you're going to come up against. What a shame.
 
I know I have never owned big dollar cars, but the few times I have ever had to park in a shady area, or in a situation I didn't feel safe in, I'd pop the hood and disconnect the ballest wires and tuck them down under the wiring harness, then pop the dizzy cap and remove the rotor. You can hot wire and ge the car cranking, but at least it will never fire without a rotor. And how many thieves carry a spare rotor....;) Won't help any if they hook the car, but in that case not much you can do.

If I was parking the car on a trailer over night, I'd have some stout chain and feed it through the rims on the trailer and up under the truck to the frame adn then locked with a HD lock. So any thieving would be made to take too much time, and create too much noise...all things thieves don't like.
 
funny you mention the rotor cow..ive done that myself countless times LOL

as for chains..that can be cut nice and quietly.........the "square" stock chains however are HELL to cut...thus why they are used for moto locking
 
If the car's not on a trailer, I still think the best defense is the steering at full lock with "The Club" across the wheel. If they can't easily drive it or tug it onto their rollback, they're going to pick a different car. They've got to be gone in seconds; something like this helps a lot more than pulling the rotor (or, in my case, the keyed electric fuel-pump switch hidden in the Charger) and in the case of pulling the rotor, it takes less time, too. The Black Bitch was such a piece of crap I didn't expect pros to come after it; I just wanted to discourage the joyriders. They'd have gotten a couple of blocks on the fuel in the float bowls, assuming they stomped it when it the center carb started to stutter.

If it's got to stay on/in the trailer, then I'd probably go the route I saw one feller do: Leave the ball and drawbar connected, and use a pin lock on both the ball latch and another through the drawbar itself after disconnecting it from the truck.

Both "The Club" and pin locks are bastards to cut through without loud, expensive tools. Neither one guarantees they won't try, but your average car thief is going to look for easier pickings. I have no doubt that Hemi 'Cuda vanished on a rollback, but had the wheel been cranked and locked in position that way with The Club, I'm pretty sure one of its Six-Barrel stablemates would have disappeared instead.
 
in some aspects i would agree to finding a way to lock the wheels at full lock.....but the club...is laughable...no offense doc but you can get thru it or around it in seconds.......a good hit in the right area or a snip to the wheel itself and its off....and a steering wheel cuts with a hacksaw easy enuf but snips real quick with bolt cutters....it will slow the kids down but anyone experianced is going to get thru it ...your fuel pump cut is something i am putting into my lloyd actualy since you wont get far enuf ........and with most rollbacks carrying those quick jacks that turn your wheels into a set of casters.......

now that club/pedal lock setup was WICKED but ive not seen them in ages

if they want it..and they are pro...they are taking the one they want...period

slip a set of quick jacks under the front wheels give it a stomp as your buddy backs in the rollback under the front tires all the way to the rear wheels and you hitch the winch and give her enuf of a tug to get the back wheels on as he pulls out with the tilter pulling her up onto the rollback......but hell most repo guys could snag a car on a stinger even quicker since all ya gotta do is have the rear wheels loose

i had some family who was in repo for many many years......the only thing those guys hate is the "tilter" alarms ...assumeing the owner is within range to hear it

these days id have a paging car alarm ..harder to get around when the car is telling the owner what alarms been set off
 
I've had a couple customers come in asking about the Club. I always talk them out of it too. It's JUNK! Waste of money! If I were a car theif and all you had on your car was the Club, guess what,..... 3-5 seconds to cut or snip the steering wheel, slide off the club, hotwire the car and I'm 'Gone in less than 60 seconds'! ;)
 
My uncle in Holland had a couple cool set-ups on his car. One locked the hand brake to the manual shifter in 4th gear, the other locked the brake and clutch pedals together with a bar from the brake lock that slipped behind the accelerator pedal so you could not move any of the 3. You hit the clutch and you're also locking up the brakes, doesn't matter since you can't depress the go pedal anyways without also hitting the brakes. ;) Never seen either set-up state side though.
 
Thieves like easy. Make it tougher to take your car relative to the next car, and they'll leave yours behind.

However, if they want YOUR car, no amount of defense is enough to stop a pro.

You've got to guard against the 95% and then hope that the other 5% don't take notice of your car for whatever reason.
 
Exactly, DCF. There's an old adage that says, "A locked door will stop 99% of thieves." Cars have been stolen from well-secured garages on the owners' property; there is no way you're going to stop a determined pro. Even the pro, however, is still a thief--meaning he doesn't want to work for anything in the first place, so he steals instead. The lower the effort, the more-likely the target. Make your car a harder target, in a high-visibility way. Short of Grant's removable steering-wheel security deal, The Club is the most visible way to do it, and you don't have to spend the time storing the wheel like with the Grant setup. It all comes down to time and effort.

The best defense is a good offense. Yes, they can clip the steering wheel and bend it open to get The Club off the car. 99% of thieves are not going to bother, period, unless you own a particularly rare or high-dollar car and they've got a quick way to part it out or sell it to someone far away. If that's the case, believe me, they're coming with a lot more than bolt cutters. Also, if they want the car undamaged on the rollback, they'd have to dolly both sets of wheels if the fronts are at full lock to avoid breaking the tranny, axle, or brakes at the very least (I don't know of anyone that leaves their cars in neutral without the park brake applied). That's even more time at the scene. As I mentioned, I'm sure that Hemi 'Cuda is somewhere overseas, as to my knowledge it was never recovered. I doubt the thieves were ever inside the car until after it was a good distance away from that parking lot, and well concealed.

When I lived in Atlanta, a friend's flawless 1986 4-4-2 was stolen right out of the high-profile "Musclecar Parking Only" section of the parking lot, maybe 60' from the showroom in the middle of the day. It was locked with no keys in it. No one from YO saw anything, any customers that saw the car leaving just thought the owner was going to lunch. At that time, mid-'80s RWD Cutlass models were one of the most-stolen cars in the country, partially because they're enormously easy to steal. I'm not a professional, but I bet I could steal a mid-'80s G-body in less than a minute... I know for a fact I can slim-jim my way into one in less than 30 seconds with a freakin' coat hanger. I believe that had that thief seen The Club in that car and the wheels cranked, someone else's car would've been gone. It just would have taken too much time. Jimmy agrees with me on that. There was no rollback. I'm sure the thief planned it, but you don't walk into a busy parking lot in broad daylight in midsummer Atlanta wearing the trenchcoat you'd need to conceal a pair of bolt cutters, which are far larger than the tiny tools needed to pop or pick a Saginaw lock cylinder. You'd stand out like a white lint ball on a black sweater, and someone would mention it--particularly at a place like Year One, where every employee knew Jim's car and every customer is a gearhead. The only thing ever recovered of the car was the cowl, firewall, toeboard and half the A-pillars... in FL, over a year later.
 
If you really want to waste money, by the way, by all means install an alarm system. I've installed many over the years (never one on my own car, of course), and I can tell you that generally speaking, the American public falls into one of two categories: A) People too stupid to use them correctly, setting even the factory ones off a few times a week, or B) people who are so used to the stupid ones doing so that they no longer even look when one goes off because they're accustomed to seeing the blushing vehicle owner standing next to the car fumbling with their key fob. No, Poindexter, the red button does not unlock the door.

The ones that page you are a cute idea, but if you're more than 60 seconds away from your car, when you do get there you'll find an empty parking spot... or at least your CD player gone.
 
I was actually at the gs nats this year. I haven't owned a turbo buick in years, but my best friend was the race director. I got to make the last pass of the event saturday afternoon in my '09 hemi truck, so all the buick guys got to see what stock hemi power will do as the duramax sled pulling truck in the left lane handed me my ass. He went a 12.90, busting up and having transmission trouble, to my 13.82.
 

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