Does money still have value?

[b-body-bob]

1970 Dodge Other​

"Rally Red and Ready To Go"​

1970 Dodge Other | eBay

We are nearing the point where you can say money has no value anymore - this, in someone's estimation, is a $70k car

It doesn't get better in the other photos.

 

[restoman]

I see a nice looking car, cleaned up by a Chevy owner, sprayed years ago by a 3rd rate "resto" shop, that has been well-used over the years and could use a LOT of detailing to make it a $40k car. Maybe even $50k if done right.

 

[Dr.Jass]

Clearly you both underestimate the value of original Hi-Jackers.

 

[thrashingcows]

That exhaust could be brought back to almost new condition with some water and a bunch of SOS pads. But they are looking for a buyer who doesn't actually get down on the ground and fix their own stuff.

 

[69.5CUDA]

Clearly you both underestimate the value of original Hi-Jackers.

WANT WANT WANT NEED NEED NEED!!!!!!
gimmy gimmy gimmy!..

ill take 2x

 

[b-body-bob]

But they are looking for a buyer who doesn't actually get down on the ground and fix their own stuff. look at the bottom of the car.

That exhaust could be brought back to almost new condition with some water and a bunch of SOS pads. But they are looking for a buyer who doesn't actually get down on the ground and fix their own stuff.

I respectfully disagree. I would either replace it, or leave it. You have to take it off to have any hope of improving it - imagine your hands after trying to clean that up with the pipes up against the car. If you take that off, you toss it in the trash.

There's no way to clean up the suspension without taking it apart, and once you take it apart you're replacing all the parts. You have to assume that is a bushings-up job, and on and on and ...

Also, I like a car that looks like it's been kept dry. This car is not that.

This amazes me - the backing plate is black.

That says more about how hard it is to mask the master cylinder than it does about how much the painter cared.

FWIW the seller didn't have to post all those photos and I guess that should count for something. $70k has to be a consignment price so I guess the strategy is to show the truth and take arguments/offers until the seller caves.

 

[Dr.Jass]

It was never restored, merely "fixed up" using parts-store replacements by a prior owner, based on the "paint it black" undercarriage. Now it's old and tired again, and needs to be gone through completely.

I do not see a base Super Bee automatic with literally no options other than a console being more than a $40K car--and that's with a 97-point restoration. A "platinum tent" winner wouldn't bring $70K. This car's close tp neither. One pink heater hose? A dime-store steering-wheel cover? The tach/clock is obviously not original, nor is it NOS--the scale is slightly off, which is common on reproduction and restored tachs w/upgraded modern movements (no, nobody gets them right). Regardless, it doesn't match the faded, yellowed original gauges. Selling a "restored" car with a bunch of worn-out original parts (dash woodgrain, tail panel, etc.) does not give it "survivor" or "original" street cred. Get the parts restored too. The tailpipes behind the mufflers might clean up, but since both those and the mufflers are wrong for a restoration, why bother? The original mufflers were offset inlet/center outlet. What's on the car is offset/offset. Besides, the tailpipes are too short.

This car needs enough that I'd say $25K might be a fair number, but not without seeing it in person.

 

[b-body-bob]

This car needs enough that I'd say $25K might be a fair number, but not without seeing it in person.

I'm unsure I'd want it at any price TBH. It's just a load of work with no end in sight.

The last car I had on the road (the blue gTx) was sort of like this one. I had rebuilt everything mechanical so it was fun to drive, but when I'd show it to someone it was just sad because someone had wasted a lot of money on paint and all the trim parts needed restoration. I was glad to be rid of it.

 

[Dr.Jass]

$70k has to be a consignment price so I guess the strategy is to show the truth and take arguments/offers until the seller caves.

I wonder how often the consignment seller looks at the car and internally says, "Yeah. Dream on."

 

[b-body-bob]

I wonder how often the consignment seller looks at the car and internally says, "Yeah. Dream on."

I would say that happens every time he walks by it.

 

[restoman]

It was never restored, merely "fixed up" using parts-store replacements by a prior owner, based on the "paint it black" undercarriage. Now it's old and tired again, and needs to be gone through completely.

Bingo!

 

[thrashingcows]

I respectfully disagree. I would either replace it, or leave it. You have to take it off to have any hope of improving it - imagine your hands after trying to clean that up with the pipes up against the car. If you take that off, you toss it in the trash.

I didn't try and load the rest of the pics because my internet connection is basically dial up...

But that exhaust is in much rougher shape than I'd thought, but with some sanding first to knock off the rust then SOS pads it could be cleaned up....not new looking but enough to extend the life of the exhaust system a lot longer then if left alone. I've cleaned up comparable aluminized piping before and had decent results.

That car must have sat in a very humid environment, outside under a car cover in a car port during the winter months with water running under it!

 

[b-body-bob]

Yes that looks like a car that has sat under a car port with water running under it, or on grass.

I just sold a CTD that had been mostly sitting on my gravel driveway for the past 18 years (20k miles on it in that time) and the underneath of it was a mess - and it doesn't sit low to the ground like a car.