1967 Plymouth Barracuda

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1967 Plymouth Barracuda - $24,900 - Plymouth, MI - 1967 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible

Strong Running 340ci V8

Edelbrock Intake and Edelbrock 4bbl Carb

727 Automatic Transmission

New Battery

Power White Top

Rotisserie Restored 4 Years Ago

Power Front Disc Brakes, Power Steering

“Formula S” Clone

Painted Undercarriage Matches Body Color

New Gas Tank, New Dual Exhaust

New Brake Lines and Flexlines

New Rear Leaf Springs and Shocks

Very Nice Frame

Solid Trunk with Spare Tire

Some Cracking on Steering Wheel

Aftermarket Gauges

White Interior, Bucket Seats and Console

BF Goodrich Radial T/A Wheels
(215/65/15 Front, 245/60/15 Rear)

Billet Specialties Directional Wheels

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[68R/T]

What's going on, his price seems reasonable? :huh:

 

[Dr.Jass]

I see a few problems with it, mostly underhood. The radiator is wrong and there's a nasty kink in that upper hose. The wiring looks rather shoddy as well. I would probably still dicker on those points alone. I'd ask if he'd give me a $1,000 discount if I let him keep the horrifying wheels and the shitty tires, and while I was taking them off I wonder if I would find redrilled axles and rotors.

Even ignoring those problems, I think he's a little high on the price (maybe 5 grand). Even though A-bodies have risen in price, I don't think that's a $25,000 car.

68R/T, do you remember a restoration guy in WI who was pretty-well known in the industry back in the '90s? He did phenomenal work; several of his cars were in Mopar mags back then. I remember he had a '71 C7 Demon 340 that was twice Platinum Certified at the Mopar Nats; he even found NOS date-coded mufflers for it. I'm pretty sure that was the nicest A-car restoration ever done. It was damned-near perfect. My roommate used to drool over that car; we'd both talked to him on the phone a few times and he seemed like a good guy. He guy was trying to sell it back in '96-'97 for $25K and couldn't even get anyone to come look at it. It was much less than he had invested. My, how times change.

 

[71ChargerRT]

If you say Barracuda and convertible in the same sentence people start thinking that they have a goldmine regardless of year. Not to say he's asking a lot over what the car's worth, but he's a bit high.

Things have changed quite a bit Doc, they're asking good money for what most people consider parts cars. Hell when the lunatic fringe asks $4-6k for ANY year 4 door Dart, let alone the nowhere near desirable '73-76 models, its completely ridiculous.

I think I finally talked Spawn into putting the correct nose on his Dart. I told him it's more valuable that way, and it's not his end all, be all car so he might as well make it easier to flip.

 

[68R/T]

68R/T, do you remember a restoration guy in WI who was pretty-well known in the industry back in the '90s? He did phenomenal work; several of his cars were in Mopar mags back then. I remember he had a '71 C7 Demon 340 that was twice Platinum Certified at the Mopar Nats;

That would be Rick Kreuziger , he did the paint & body on John Grinwalds platinum 69-1/2 Bee. Since then Rick & John partnered up to form Almost NOS Co.

 

[Dr.Jass]

What they're asking and what they're getting are two different things in the current economy, though. They can ask all they want. My friend's '71 Twister (GA car) finally went to the crusher. Yes, it was a 318, but a dual-scoop, Rallye cluster with tach, disc-brake, 8¾" car with a console auto in E5 with a black gut wouldn't sell. 14" Rallyes without trim rings. Yes, all of the good stuff was gone including the perfect shark-tooth grille but he only parted it after it wouldn't bring $2,500 as a complete car with an E58 360 between the rails. It was complete when he bought it, two build sheets and all. The original 318 was still in it; he installed the 360. After he parted it, he put the shell on eBay something like 7 times, starting the bid at $100 with no reserve. Every auction winner had an excuse and a couple were only few miles away from him in ATL. He got fed up, and the car is now a soup can in your local grocery store. All it really needed was lower quarters, extensions, and the bottom of the spare-tire well.

Much like what happened with my LeBaron (not here), the online wailing started as soon as it was destroyed. We both had the same response: "Well, if it meant that much to you, you should have fucking bought it. I have [insert expense here] to consider, and y'all thought I'd never do it. Well, I did." In his case, he got more for it at the scrapyard than the high bidder last go-round, but he'd have rather seen it saved than get crushed. Oh well.

I hope Spawn goes with the original front end style. I already told you how I felt about how that car should be done and I still feel that way. I wouldn't go balls-out on the restoration, but get the basics right. There are '73-'76 enthusiasts out there, but a rotisserie restoration would be insanity. Make it pretty, pay attention to the details, but don't spend too much doing it and that could be a profitable car should the time come for a flip; in the meantime it would be a really-enjoyable ride.

 

[Dr.Jass]

That would be Rick Kreuziger , he did the paint & body on John Grinwalds platinum 69-1/2 Bee. Since then Rick & John partnered up to form Almost NOS Co.

Grinwald is the guy I remember. Thank you. Did you ever see that Demon in person? It was flat-out spectacular. Kreuzinger I don't remember, but you know--the credit always goes to the owner. I remember Grinwald's Bee as well; he actually sort of regretted doing that Demon. If memory serves, he lost his ass on that car. I don't think he got 20 grand out of it.

 

[68R/T]

I never did see the Demon but I saw the Bee a few times. The Bee only brought $27k. Like John said, "What's anyone else going to do with now, besides drive it. Now that it's got the top honors, no national show will allow you to enter it."

After he built his street/strip clone of the Bee, he's become more interested in racing. Right now he's in the process of building a '65 altered wheelbase clone. He's going all-out with aluminum fenders and body bolts. Power will come from a 500 something Hemi. He's hoping to bring in final weight around 3000 lbs.

He still has his '69-1/2 Bee clone, the 62 Dart "Asphalt Elephant" and a Thunderbolt clone that can't keep the engine together. He refuses to give up on the 'Bolt because he's a ford dealer now. :bwuhaha: